G. E. Valley Jr.'s questions for, and notes of, his second telephone call with Marian Steuart, 18 August 1986 ("not a complete literal transcription"): Clayton Ringgold's smuggling for the Confederacy, Thomas Charles Ringgold's later years in Baltimore, and where to write for Queen Anne's County records.

[Notebook p. 70. Date stamp AUG 18 1986. Faint pencil at top.] [pencil:] Call Marian Steuart 18 Aug 86 11:10 A [phone number left out] Talk from 11:10 to 12:00

Questions for Marian S. 1) Where was her great grandfather Thomas born - on Kent Is? on Coxes Neck? ✓ 2) How was he ruined ✓ 3) Was Clayton as much of a blockade runner as Genevieve wrote? ✓ 4) Who paid for all the food to Gen Lee? ✓ 5) Was Clayton a nice man ✓ 6) Map of Kent Island ✓ 7) Where is ch[amber] of commerce nearest to Galena? ✓ Who to write to for D/C's in Queen Anne's Cty ✓ Looking for record of John H Cummins farm? ✓

[Notebook p. 71. Date stamp AUG 18 1986.] Marian Steuart: Telephone Call - not a complete literal transcription

Clayton Ringgold smuggling: grandma visited Clayton when she was 15-16 & Cousin Clayton would tell her "now if you see or hear anything - the night just don't tell anyone anything about it!" His place is on Chesapeake Bay - something - corn or ammunition was taken on south to the troops. & that's all Genevieve knew she had a vivid imagination.

"Sudler Cockey's mother was born there - his 3rd wife. Maybe Sudler did tell Gen this rest of us didn't know - all I knew was what my grandmother said.

The Cleland [written "Clayland"] Prices who now have Clayton Ringgold's house are, if related at all to Marian Steuart, very distant relatives.

About Thomas Chas Ringgold? was he from Kent Is too,

His revolutionary ancestor was Wm Ringgold, & his brother - Thomas I used as revolutionary ancestor for the D.A.R. - Wm Ringgold's son Thomas - he's supposed to have inherited 420 acres on Kent Is yet we've never been able to determine just where that property was. Ringgolds bought a lot & sold a lot, all over the island.

[Notebook p. 72. Date stamp AUG 19 1986. Notes of the Aug 18 call continued. The top third of the page was photographed out of focus; the fragments that can be read (here and at the left edge of n079) are given.] [Fragments, top:] ...Thomas Charles ...[born]? ... could have ... really don't know ... Millington. ... grandfather ... grandfather ... his trade ... Price went over the ... Ringgolds to ... -old - She But that Thomas Ringgold - She Married a Betton - Me ?? She Mildred didn't know - She is talking about AABCCEA Thos whose wife was unknown to Schoch. Betton See top page 35 of Schoch Me "How did Thos Chas get ruined?" She never heard of that. Me Baltimore etc. She I don't know - Oh Thos Charles went to Baltimore to live with MY grandmother & grandfather (i.e. Molly)

[Notebook p. 73. Notes of the Aug 18 call continued.] Me How Thos Chas lost his money? She In those days they were left money & maybe they didn't take care of it - invested it unwisely - & I really don't know - Me Was there a Wm Ringgold in business together with Thos Chas? She No I wouldn't. Me Wash College etc - did Thos have a helper named W. Ringgold She he could have, he could have - I don't know - She: We never found out who Clayton's father was. - same as in p 105 of Schoch. Me Where get maps Kent Island She I have them here 1877 maps from the Heritage Society. I can send you one - in a tube She Errors in Schoch's book. She I worked in an office in Annapolis & lunch hour I did get all the Ringgold wills for her & had them copied! also I had a family Bible

[Notebook p. 74. Heading "Steuart / Ringgold", date stamp AUG 19 1986. Notes of the Aug 18 call continued.] Me Was Clayton a nice guy etc She I never heard anything - He seemed to get along well with the ladies - he got 4 wives - She I've understood that grandfather Ringgold, when he lived in Baltimore wouldn't go out because he feared some people who see him who had known him before - because he had had money & lived very well. Me - 1870 census - R's didn't answer door to the census taker? She Around that time there was a John Ringgold in Balt. He was in tailoring business & he was very generous & good to Thomas Chas. She When Clayton died, that's when his wife left the farm with her 2 children & went to Smyrna or Middletown or wherever - Never seen his will. She The DAR & Colonial Dames will accept references from Mildred's Book. "South Wind" - lots on water @ 100K

[Notebook p. 75. Heading "Steuart / Ringgold", date stamp AUG 19 1986. Notes of the Aug 18 call continued.] Part of my grandfather's house is still standing, other part gone in Hurricane. They're going to move it to an inland lot & reconstruct it - Me Is there a ch[amber] of com[merce] in Stevensville She No - we're not even incorporated! Me How find out about Galena She Write to Chestertown & ask of library or ch of commerce Me Is the court house in Centreville She Write to the Clerk of the Court, Queen Anne's Cty court house, Centreville Md. Registrar of Wills office for wills. Me Who paid for stuff Clayton took to Lee? She No idea She Don't know what happened to Clayton's sons after they lost the farm. Ringgolds were tall don't recollect R.'s had red hair; some probably did. Sudler Cockey's hair was sandy.